Umukuru w’Igihugu Paul Kagame yagiranye ikiganiro n’ikinyamakuru Jeune Afrique, asubiza ibibazo byose atabica ku ruhande ku bijyanye n’abarwanya ubutegetsi n’imigambi yabo.
Iki kiganiro cyaje gikurikirana bidatinze n’urupfu rw’uwigeze kuba umukuru w’urwego rw’ubutasi bwo hanze y’igihugu Patrick Karegeya, ku buryo byari byatumye amaso ya benshi bayahanga Perezida w’u Rwanda, benshi bagaragaza ko Leta y’u Rwanda yaba iri inyuma y’uru rupfu.
Tariki ya 10 Mutarama 2014, ku munsi wa Gatanu, Perezida Kagame yakiriye Francois Soudan, umwe mu bayobozi b’ubwanditsi b’Ikinyamakuru Jeune Afrique bagirana ikiganiro kigufi cyibanze ku rupfu rwa Karegeya, agaragaza imigambi mibisha iri gucurwa n’abatavuga rumwe n’ubutegetsi n’ibindi.
Ubwo Francois Soudan yagiranaga iki kiganiro na Perezida Kagame, hari haramutse mu gitondo cya kare hari igihuha cyakwirakwijwe mu mujyi wa Goma, Bukavu, Lubumbashi, no kugera i Kinshasa muri Repubulika Iharanira Demokarasi ya Congo ko Perezida Kagame yapfuye.
Icyo gihuha cyakwirakwijwe ahanini n’imbuga nkoranyambaga zirimo Facebook na Twitter, cyari cyateje akaduruvayo bituma ibihumbi by’Abanyekongo bitwaje amasanduku y’abapfu, birara mu mihanda bajya kwishimira urupfu rwa Kagame, ariko batwika amabendera y’u Rwanda, nyamara ibyo byose ubwo byarimo biba, i Kigali byateraga benshi guseka, barimo n’abayobozi ndetse na nyirubwite, nyirukuvugwa yarabyumvise abibonamo ikimenyetso cyo kudakura mu mutwe kw’igihugu gituranyi, ndetse n’impanga nini yo kudasobanukirwa itandukanyije ibihugu byombi.
Iki kiganiro cyashyizwe ahagaragara muri Jeune Afrique nimero 2767 yasohotse muri iki cyumweru kiri mu rurimi rw’Igifaransa, ubwanditsi bwa IGIHE bwagerageje kugishyira mu Kinyarwanda.
Jeune Afrique: Ni nde wishe Patrick Karegeya?
Paul Kagame: Mu bifatika, ntacyo bimbwiye. Kuva bikiba, nta kubanza gushakira ahandi ndetse nta no gutegereza ibiva mu iperereza rya Polisi, igisubizo cy’ibinyamakuru uko byagenda kose ni kimwe: Uwo bihama ni Kagame, yica abamurwanya, afite akamenyero ko kubikora.
Jeune Afrique: Mukumufata, we ubwe n’abandi bagenzi be, nk’umwanzi w’igihugu, mwari mwamugize intego…
Paul Kagame: Nibo ubwabo biyise abanzi b’igihugu! Babivugiye mu ruhame mu bitangazamakuru imbere ya ‘cameras’, muri Afurika y’Epfo aho bari, nta rujijo na rucye, ariko ibinyamakuru bimwe na bimwe ni byo byagize ubunyangamugayo bwo kubyibutsa: Kuri bo uburyo bwonyine bwo kugera ku byo bifuza ni ugukoresha urugomo rwifashishije intwaro.
Noneho banahisemo no gukora ibikorwa by’iterabwoba, birimo no gutera za gerenade ahantu hahurira abantu benshi hano mu Rwanda, zihitana zikanakomeretsa benshi. Igitangaje muri ibi ni uko iyo bigeze kuri Afurika, amahanga abogama (deux poids deux mesures), akagaragaza ko bariya bantu barangwa n’urugomo ndetse bakishora mu bikorwa by’iterabwoba, bo babafata nk’abatavuga rumwe n’ubutegetsi basanzwe.
Iyo bigeze ku Rwanda, imvugo badukoreshaho ni iyi: bariya bantu babarwanya kandi barahiriye kubagusha mu buryo bwose, rwose mubarinde, mububahe, ntimuzakore no ku gasatsi kabo na kamwe ko ku mutwe wabo. Muri make, ibihugu by’ibikomerezwa byonyine ni byo biba bifite uburenganzira n’ubwenge bwo kugena ukora iterabwoba n’utarikora, ukwiye igihano n’utagikwiye. Banyihanganire ariko sinemera iyo myumvire.
Jeune Afrique: Niba twakurikiye, aba badashyigikiye ubutegetsi, ubwo bakwiye kwitwa abaterabwoba…
Paul Kagame: Dufite amakuru ahagije kandi yizewe aturuka mu nzego zacu z’ubutasi, abantu bahoze mu ruhande rurwanya ubutegetsi bashyize bakaza gufatanya natwe, ndetse n’inyandikomvugo z’ibazwa rya bamwe mu bo twagiye dufata tukabashyikiriza ubutabera nyuma y’ibikorwa bagiye bakora byo gutera ibisasu.
Intego yabo ni iyi: gukora ibishoboka kugira ngo ibikorwa byo kwibuka ku nshuro ya 20 biteganywa muri Mata 2014 bivangirwe, biteshwe agaciro, ndetse birengeranwa n’ubwoko bwose bw’ubutumwa bubi bwo guhakana jenoside ndetse n’ibikorwa by’iterabwoba.
Turabizi n’inzego z’ubutasi z’ibihugu byo mu Burengerazuba ndetse n’ibihugu bimwe na bimwe bya Afurika, ntibibiyobewe – nubwo mu buryo buteye amatsiko - nta kintu na kimwe babikoraho, mu gihe kandi bafite n’imigambi mibisha yo kuba bahitana bamwe mu bayobozi b’u Rwanda.
Ibyo byose turabizi. Gusa nta na kimwe gishobora kuzavangira ubushake bw’abaturage bacu, ndetse no kudacika intege, kwiyemeza kwabo mu gukomeza kujya imbere mu nzira y’iterambere.
Jeune Afrique: Ngarutse ku kibazo cyanjye cy’ibanze: Ni nde wishe Patrick Karegeya?
Paul Kagame: Ku babaza icyo kibazo, bazi neza ko bene uriya muntu yihaye kwigira umuvugizi w’ubugizi bwa nabi n’iterabwoba, nsubiza ntya: Iterabwoba rigira ikiguzi, ubugambanyi bugira ikiguzi. Umuntu yicwa nk’uko nawe yishe. Buri wese agira urupfu rumukwiriye.
Jeune Afrique: U Rwanda rwemeye kohereza ingabo mu butumwa bw’amahoro bwa MISCA muri Centrafrique. Ni nde washinjwa akaduruvayo kari muri kiriya gihugu?
Paul Kagame: Ndamutse mbabwiye ko Afurika n’Abanyafurika ari bo soko y’ibibazo byabo naba mfite ukuri gucagase. Mu kibazo cya Centrafrique uyu munsi, Mali ndetse n’ibindi byahise, birigaragaza ko ibihugu by’abahoze ari abakoloni ku ruhande rumwe bibifitemo uruhare.
Ikibazo cyawe rero cyagombye kuba kibaza mu buryo buri rusange: Ni nde muri Afurika no hanze ya Afurika ukwiye gushinjwa ikosa?
TANGA IGITEKEREZO